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Hey Board...its X-Mas time and I need to buy some gifts via e-commerce in Spain. What are the best e-commerce shopping sights in Spain? I need to buy a DVD or video movie and some everday kid's things.

Thanks.


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depends where you�re shopping to, but I always use Amazon.co.uk, because they will deliver from the UK to anywhere in Spain. I use it all the time.

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have you checked out El Corte Ingl�s?


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Some people boycott Amazon because they view its business practices as unethical, specifically, in "patenting" software.

But it may be that its policies have changed recently. Stephen
 
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Tell us more about amazon, Stephen, as I too use it a lot!!!!


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Hi Chica...I did go into elcorteingles but their DVD selection wasn't sufficient. A friend's daughter is a Barbie freak and I am look for Barbie's nutcracker and elcorte doesn't have it.

Any other ideas?


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Stephen --

I use Amazon a lot too...what do you mean by unethical business practices? Please tell us more.

TJ Guy...other places to try are FNAC and CARREFOUR ... if you can�t find what you are looking for there I�ll try to find you another site! Wink


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Here�s a link which explains it, updated to September 2003.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/amazon.html

The basic problems are that the U.S. Patent Office issues patents for basic, obvious ideas, and Amazon has sued competitors like Barnes & Noble who�ve used them. Amazon patented "1-click shopping".

This is an unconnected point: anyone who thinks the U.S. Patent Office knows what it�s doing should know that in 2002 they issued yet another patent (one of many) for "a free-energy device" (what you and I would call a perpetual motion machine). Stephen
 
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Chica...I love you....will u have my children? Fnac.es was the ticket - excellent. I was worried how I was going to get this person a certain DVD and you solved my problem. Muchisimas Gracias - eres la bomba!!!


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I�m sorry Stephen, I must be missing something important re Amazon. I thought maybe it was cos they have moved their ordering department to India thereby doing away with a lot of jobs in the UK, which I don�t agree with. But if they were astute enough to patent something when no-one else had thought to do so? Or have I got it completely wrong? (I usually do!! Eeker )


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TJGuy---

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You might think so but the issue is that what they�ve patented is a trivial, standard idea, obvious to anyone who has ever programmed a computer, but now no-one else can use it. It�s never been possible before to patent a piece of text (the source code), which is what they have done, just as you can�t patent Pythagoras�s theorem.

The appropriate way to protect their "work" should they feel that the effort would be justified is copyright, which is not the same as patenting.

To take examples from other occupations, suppose you could patent a word, or a particular way of pushing a brush, so that anyone who used these had to pay for the privilege.

So in the first place, it�s a freedom of speech issue, in the second place it stifles innovation because a standard technique which has been used for years isn�t available any more. In the third place, scientific knowledge and techniques should be freely available to all as far as possible (I do not mean that what Amazon�s staff did could be described as science).

The greed of Amazon�s bosses isn�t the only cause of course, as you also have to blame the stupidity of the authorities who allowed it to happen. In the meantime, if you use their services, you encourage them.

Though the European Parliament voted recently against software patents, that fight is not yet over: the UK Government is lobbying hard to have the decision overturned by the Concil of Ministers on November 27.

To know more about the many threats to our digital rights, you can look at the Electronic Frontier Foundation website www.eff.org or http://www.ffii.org.uk/council.html Stephen
 
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