Hi everyone. I am back, and yes, as usual It is because i am after something (Sorry)
Just a quick update on my life in Madrid, I arrived here 7-8 months ago and am now building a house in Navalcarnero (Not far from Xanadu). Its all very exciting, especially for a 22 year old. The language side of things is improving, my partner speaks fluent English, so this means I have been a bit of a wimp and not spoken enough in Spanish. Currently 1 month into a 6 month course of Spanish lessons and it is going pretty well. Got Subjunctive coming up soon though
anyway..... back to the job.
I need someone who is a web developer/programmer. I am NOT looking for a standard web designer. Nor am i looking for someone who once designed a forum or a basic web site.
I am after a good level programmer/developer. ideally with some experience in Flash design.
We are 90% finished on our latest and by far greatest project, and we need someone who can devote a few hours per week maintaining and occasionally upgrading the site.
The site makes its money from sponsors/ads and affiliate links/banners. It is something that has never been tried before and should be a huge success.
Other possible vacancies We may also be looking for a MARKETER, basically someone who has enough timne to e-mail and occasionally call relevent companies and try to get them to advertise on the site.
SEO (Search engine optimization expert)
We may be interested to hear from you if you have previous experience in SEO. Basically if you can drive large quantities of traffic to our site(s) via search engine rankings, link swapping campaigns etc...? then we would be interested to hear from you.
As I mentioned previously, these jobs can be done in your spare time, probably no more than 4-5 hours per week, and payment will be commission only for the immediate future.
If we can get some of the big players to be involved in this project, then the sites could easily turn over 2-3000 euros per month, of which at least 10-15% will be paid to you in commission.
If interested? contact me at: fish4tackle@hotmail.com
It's not so much that he hasn't captured the spirit of the board but he seems to have a rather odd idea about what goes on in the business world.
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The site makes its money from sponsors/ads and affiliate links/banners. It is something that has never been tried before and should be a huge success.
Almost anyone who has surfed the web can tell that the above quote is nonsense. Massive numbers of sites make their money from sponsors/ads and links and banners. To say it is something that has never been tried before is like saying advertising on television has never been tried before.
Deano's seems to have a crack business scheme every month or so ( here and here ) and although I find them amusing to read I worry that other more naive readers will actually be taken in.
- Roland
Posts: 289 | Location: Madrid via DC via Mexico via ... | Registered: 01 August 2003
it seems that every "job offer" posted by deano is a "commission only" job.
if the past ventures have been as successful as they are made to sound, there should be funds available to actually pay a web developer for his/her work.
deano, web developers of the "talla" (caliber) that you seem to require are normally either working or can see through the commission only gigs (eg. Roland) in the hopes that a project will work out and years down the line they will get a few hundred euros/month out of it.
i have been looking on and off for a web developer to implement a hotel bookings engine here on multimadrid which would most definitely bring in great money after set up and it has been hard (although i have not looked to hard as i have been busy with other things). the gig does not pay up front either but i am offering a 50/50 split, not just 10%-15% commission.
on the other hand, i applaud you for your entrepreneurial spirit and his motivation/ambition :cheers:
saludso, jer...
p.d. yes madsue, you are SO right, deano has NOT captured the idea of this board, odd since he admins his own board so he should understand what it is all about
I am the first to admit that i havent captured the spirit of this board. But if you can find me a person that posts on here because they DONT want something? then i will be amazed.
Most people post on here because they are after information, the others post because they are most likely bored. So we are all after something when we post on forums.
I will try to participate more in the near future though.
Anyway, Roland.... you misread my comment. I wasnt implying that no one has tried affiliates/advertising before. Almost every site on the web has tried it, infact Multimadrid is full of such ads, what i meant to say was my method of portraying these ads has never been done before, and the novelty and convienience factor alone will bring in the visitors.
JER.... you say that i should offer 50%..... this project has cost me over $6000 thus far and I have paid for top notch developers to do all the complex stuff, i paid them in full per hour and there was no commission involved. And 15% of a few thousand per month is more than 50% of a couple of hundred, so the % is irrelevent unless you know the net revenue.
As a business man yourself Jer, you will know that nearly all sales/marketing ventures in Madrid are now commission based. I know people that worked 60+ hour weeks for a magazine here in Madrid and at the most they got 10%.
One final point....... If i remember correctly, Roland asked something along the lines of "If my previous ventures were so good then why havent i made any money?"
I should point out that i came here 7 months ago with 600 euros and now i am building a house in a very nice area, and yes, i am 22.
Anyway, apologies for not getting into the so called spirit of the board, but like i said earlier.... everyone who posts on here is after something in a way.
deano, there are MANY members who post here to help others and GIVE advice so you could not be more mistaken.
ME for example, 9,599 posts to date and you can count on one hand thne threads where i ask for something instead of offering up help/advice.
i am the extreme example but there are many other members who do not post only for self-interested reasons.
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the others post because they are most likely bored.
so trying to help others is only done out of boredome
i can assure you that i am NEVER bored. i keep very busy.
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infact Multimadrid is full of such ads,
wrong again (with respect to the affiliates), all of the ads on this site are paid (in advance) ones (with the exception of "tienda" which has very little presence here).
and fyi, it is multimadrid.
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And 15% of a few thousand per month is more than 50% of a couple of hundred, so the % is irrelevent unless you know the net revenue.
who said anything about a couple of hundred a month? are you guessing how much my hotel bookings system will generate. don't assume, you know what happens when you do. this shows bad business sense on your end. you have no idea what bookings can bring in and i assure you the numbers can get well into the thousands of euros.
you seem to be VERY proud of the fact that you are only 22 and are doing so well but perhaps that same age sheds some light on your lack of experience.
i am happy for your success and am sure you deserve it but fyi, building a house in navalcarnero is not exactly "lifestyles of the rich and famous" material. it is not expensive out there, i have a friend with a house there. it is VERY attainable, especially if one is building their own place.
you should be more humble instead of trying to rub things into people's faces. i think you age is also to blame for that so really can't blame you. you will learn as you live.
Lets be honest here, you posted over 9000 posts on here because you own it and you financially benefit from this forum appearing actively busy and useful. I dont doubt for a minute that you genuinly want to help people, but I also know that by making a succesful forum you make money from ads and it allows you to promote your other ventures such as the company you have that stores goods, the sim cards, plaza webcams etc....
I didnt intend for my example to give the impression that your hotel booking system would only make a couple of hundred, my point was that just because you offer someone 50% instead of 15% doesnt mean that person will have 35% more cash every month. And I am sure if your hotel bookings system costs $6000 to make like my project has, then you wouldnt be giving 50% to anyone.
As for me seeming rather proud to be building a house........ Actually i am rather proud of that, but i wasnt boasting, i was simply pointing out that Roland was incorrect. And for what its worth a 2 bed flat in the worst area of navalcarnero is around 200k (euros). It is no where near as expensive as living in Madrid centre though.
Anyway, it was a genuine job offer and the offer still stands. But from now on, i will avoid this section of the forum and hopefully i will have more to offer mm than just job offers.
with every post here you show how very little you know about this site.
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Lets be honest here, you posted over 9000 posts on here because you own it and you financially benefit from this forum appearing actively busy and useful.
that is NOT why i post. a bit of history for ya on multimadrid...
i started this site 3 years ago or so and before that it took me a full 10 months of 10 hour/day unpaid design work/photo taking (well over $6,000 value i'm sure you will agree).
i did not start multimadrid as a money-maker nor was i in the least bit interested in advertisers. of course when i launched and companies offered me money as sponsors, i took it but in no way, shape or form was it set up for financial reasons.
to this day i would still put 1,000% into it even if it did not make money but rather lost the 200�/year that the hosting costs.
i will be the first to admit that this site brings me a lot of business for the cell rentals, SIM sales, etc... but those businesses came well after the site was online.
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And I am sure if your hotel bookings system costs $6000 to make like my project has, then you wouldnt be giving 50% to anyone.
not true. in fact, it will most likely cost quite a bit to set up but that will not come out of my pocket. the investment will be the time put in by the web developer who ends up working with me on the project and who is to say that the time he/she invests (many, many hours) will not have a $6,000 + pricetag. i value the time and skill of the web developer and the 50% WILL show that.
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And for what its worth a 2 bed flat in the worst area of navalcarnero is around 200k (euros). It is no where near as expensive as living in Madrid centre though.
i agree, real estate here in the center of madrid is VERY out of control.
you should be proud to have your own place. i have been here 8 years and while i have been able to save up a nest egg, i still rent, mostly due to the low rent here at my apt. and the fact that i have my heart set on buying a place here in the city center.
please stick around multimadrid, i think you can add a lot to the site. maybe you could become our navalcarnero correspondant
originally posted by deano6410: [qb] ...if you can find me a person that posts on here because they DONT want something? then i will be amazed. .... everyone who posts on here is after something in a way. [/qb]
I fear that you have read very little on this forum. Your statement is very wrong and you would do well to RESEARCH a little before making a statement of this type. If you read the forums you will see that there are actually quite a lot of people who participate in this forum without any gain just because they actually want to help other people. Naturally, there are people who dip in, ask questions and then dip out again. And why not? However, there are a lot of people who read posts and answer and help other people greatly. I wish you well in your ventures: remember that not everyone is out for a fastbuck and that there are people for whom monetary gain is not the end all and be all of life. By the way, as they say, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Posts: 11 | Location: Madrid | Registered: 04 November 2004
As a 11 year veteran of web design (yes, I started in 94!) I can attest that Jer and Roland are correct. No real designer or programmer would work on spec or for commission. Your best bet is to contact a school to get a student who is looking to build a portfolio to do the work. In return, you can give them a good reference.
About search engine optimization. There is no way to guarantee that traffic will increase unless you pay for better placement. Google has a very good system where you can designate a certain amount per keyword and per click. But for most start-ups, a search engine isn't where you will find your first customers...
Posts: 1081 | Location: Madrid | Registered: 10 December 2002
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