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Has anybody been to this or know which day it's actually on? I know it's between the 24th & 31st of this month! Did I miss it?
 
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Laidback --

The encierros and corridas have been going on all this week... it started on Monday. The runs are at 8am.


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Thanks Chica. You mean they run every day??
 
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Laidback

I went to the bull running this morning in SS. It has run all this week so you could get along tomorrow to see the last day.

The bulls are run at 8.00am and then you can watch 3 rounds of baby bull "baiting" in the arena and a 4th round with three professionals and a very big bull !!

I'm a soft English animal lover so this type of thing doesn't really appeal to me, but it was funny to watch the people running and in the ring with the bulls.

There was much testosterone flying about as everyone was trying to outsmart each other with fancy moves and dangerous passes.

If you can get up early, it makes for good viewing !!

(Also apologies for the technical incorrections re this sport !!!! I have no idea !)
 
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Yes, Laidback, the encierros are all this week. Telemadrid does a "play by play" analysis of the run around 9:30 or 10am where they show the highlights of the morning�s run with some "local expert", usually one of the "pastores" or "mozos" commenting on the more dangerous or interesting parts of the event.

As Lisa mentioned, the runs start off at 8 am. SS de los Reyes is gaining in importance and popularity as Pamplona�s (but still has a long way to go) and the actual run is just a few meters short of the length of Pamplona�s. The runs end in the plaza de toros where the bulls trot around the ring for a moment and then are herded inside the corral by the "cabeceros" (the old brown spotted bulls that run with the big black ones).

Then, for the crowd�s entertainment, they take out 3-4 "vaquillas" for the novices to "torear", each one more difficult and bigger than the previous. Anyone who wants to can participate in this part of the event. The vaquillas don�t really do any harm, but might be capable of toppling you over.

Finally, the ring is cleared of all the novices and three "professionals"...generally those who take this more seriously...are introduced and take turns showing off their dangerous "recortes" in front of a full sized bull....not sure who has more testosterone flowing, the bull or the mozos!

I�ve been to Pamplona...for the party more than the bulls...could hardly keep my eyes open for the 5 seconds it took for the bulls to run past me. I have been to the encierros at SS de los Reyes two years a row and have gotten tix to enter the ring...It�s a nice and different way to start the morning! Smiler


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Tell me more, I want to see!! Where is the bull ring? And, 'have gotten tix' , do you need tickets??
 
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Laidback, I think tomorrow is the last run for the festival (if you are still awake to read this). Tickets can be purchased the morning of the event...being that tomorrow is the last day, I recommend getting there very early (7am) to get the tix. They can be bought at the bull ring itself. I don�t know the address of the bull ring, but if you look in qdq.com or p�ginas amarillas, I am sure you can find a map that will help to orient you. Or simply do what we do, drive to Sanse de los Reyes and ask directions from anyone in the streets. They will most likely tell you "todo recto" Big Grin

If you go, have a great time!


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Be careful with the encierros, Laidback!! They are fun but dangerous, too. And many of those who get caught are the ones who have been drinking before. As in driving, I would recommend not to drink and do it. It might be even worse than in the case of driving if you have no -or very little- experience in encierros.
Anyway, have fun if you go, and keep us informed Wink


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Doh! Got up late and nearly missed it! Got to the run at 7.55, just before the start! Hey Sensis, I didn't say I was going to join in, I'm not that brave anymore!! Smiler Just wanted to see one! Obviously we wasn't early enough to get the best view! but we managed to see a few bulls and a LOT of runners in the gaps between peoples legs etc. Anyway, we walked down to the Plaza de Toros after and got tickets to see what was happening inside. They were only 3�. Had a laugh at the young bulls chasing around the ring trying to charge at the many 'youths' that were in there.
Just before we left (Cause Cyn had to go to work to pay for my adsl connection! Wink & possibly the ending anyway) they had four young men in the ring with a big bull. They were obviously training to be bull fighters as they made all the right moves & noises! (I think, I no nada about bull fighting! Big Grin )
I think I got a few piccy's - not looked yet - none of the run, just in the ring after. I'll put a link soon.

But, Hey!! Why didn't anybody tell me this was happening just up the road!!!! I nearly missed it! Razzer Big Grin Guess I should read more guides!

Edit: Photos, just 3! at the bottom of this page http://www.cynian.net/index.php?madrid
maybe next year I'll be better prepared and get some of the actual running!

 
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You'll find this one is Jam packed with fotos from the Running of the bulls, and some really great shots too.


http://www.sanfermin.com/

http://www.sanfermin2.com/2001/cas/otros/enlaces.htm

http://www.pamplona.net eng

check the ones in English

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So laidback, did you go this year??

We were there this morning. They are running again tomorrow morning! I�ll give you guys a call just in case parenthood has you too busy to check on multimadrid.

For others who are interested in going... I�ll post a link later today but the details are the following:

Bull runs and Encierros every morning (Started Wednesday the 25th) at 8am sharp.

To get there, take the interurban bus (the green ones) from Plaza de Castilla. Not sure which number, but at that hour in the morning (7am) there will be lots of people doing the same, just ask).

Tickets into the bullring cost 3� per person.

You will see the bulls and the runners enter into the ring (and invariably 1-2 people trampled). The bulls are then guided directly into the pen.

A vaquilla is brought out (a baby cow... about 2 years old) and the folks in the ring spend about 15 minutes doing recortes and torear it.

The ring is cleared and a bull is brought out. Those with the most testosterone stay in the ring for this.

Finally another vaquilla is brought out.

On the last day of the festival, there is a recortes competition and a few more bulls/vaquillas are brought into the ring.

The whole thing is over by 9:15am and everyone heads to one of the local bars for caf�/churros con chocolate.

There is a website dedicated to the festivals of "Sanse"... El Encierro which is related to the newspaper that produced for the festivities. The festival and encierros go on until the 31st of August this year.

Enjoy!


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Hey Chica,

I don't think we'll make it this time but thanks for the reminder! I watched this mornings run on tv while I fed her highness! Smiler
 
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man!!! 8am for the encierros Eeker

i can't imagine getting up that early for an encierro in san seb. de los reyes. did it for the ones in pamplona years ago but did not have to get up as we partied all night right into the encierro in the morning :cheers:

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I watched this mornings run on tv
jejeje, ya got me beat, the best i could bring my lazy ass to do was watch the highlights on the news at 3:00pm :jeje:

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I watched this mornings run on tv
�ngel and I made the news! Did you see us take off like bats out of hell when the bulls jumped the fence into the corridor separating the ring from the stands? That was RIGHT IN FRONT OF US! Sheesh!!! Talk about a scare! Can you imagine if they some how managed to jump up into the stands?? Eeker

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while I fed her highness!
Which one, Cyn or Alicia? :jeje: :jeje:


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hey chica, I have seen that on the TV, for real, it actually does happen, and did last year, although I can't remember which one it was, and again this year, in June I saw the same thing happen (somewhere around) and the bull just came out of the booth and went straight for the fence, jumped onto it & over on to the seats and started a human stampede, then clambered up the seats to where a family were sitting and flipped a little girl right up into the air, and all the men were going mental trying to get this crazy bull away, but it just kept on stomping around from one seat to another trying to get out.

I don't know for sure, because I can't remember it all that well, and had just forgot about it, but I think in the end, they had to let someone shoot it, and like I say, I've been watching a lot of bull fighting on TV over the last few years, and I've seen some really bad 'Goring' in some of the events, one woman that I saw was gored (Gorado) so badly, she has broken ribs, ruptured spleen, you name it, she was tossed into the air like a rag doll at least seven times, and she really hit the road hard each time.

So fair warning should be headed by all those that think it is just a lot of fun, it is and it isn't, you can have fun, but you can also get really messed up, and that's why I prefer to just watch it on the TV, my back & neck already got seriously messed up some years ago, and I cannot afford to get clobbered by a bull, or the stampeding humans either, who will jump & stamp on you to get away from the bull, if you get in their way too, but I suppose it's like they say in the US (whatever melts your butter) eh!

I watched all of La corrida at Las Ventas this year with king J. Carlos in the stands, and it was fairly good, there was only one which got a bit silly & messy at the end, because the guy failed to thrust the sword into the bull properly, and the bull just blatantly refused to die for so long that the crowd started to boo, and that was really embarrassing for him, especially as it was right in front of the King.

It's a strange subject to get into with some people, most just cannot understand why we humans still do this in the 21st century, I can't see much point to it really, the killing that is, I mean as a sport, it's fine, an cultural art form, sure, some fun for the family playing with the bulls by teasing them, yeah, but the gore of it, the blood, the stabbing, the lancing, and finally the kill by thrusting a long sword in through the back of it's neck??? I wonder about this sometimes, don't you?

I used to watch SUMO wrestling on satellite back in the eighties, and I loved it,still do, only I haven't seen it now for about the last 12-14 years since I had that particular service in London, (which I got rid of because it was crap and full of pop video rubbish & news reports & commercials, and just stuck with hiring videos) and so I really miss it a lot (the Sumo that is), but nobody I knew, or anyone in my family could understand why I watched it, or even why the Japanese still do it, or why they ever did, but to me, it came across as being one the most perfect forms of art, yet still being a valid sport, a traditional cultural family event for centuries, and even a martial art, and was bloody brilliant entertainment into the bargain, and I would dearly love to see all the bouts that have been fought over the last 14 odd years and catch up on the form of those guys, who are looked upon almost like royalty in Japan, just like Spain's great Bull fighters have always been, it's the same thing, the same kind of fascination, the bullfight, the Sumo fight, intensity, the concentration, the spirit of the event, the artistry of it, the sport, they're almost the same, with an almost a semi-religious kind of spirituality to it, being closely liked with certain ritualistic pseudo religious practices that are quite popular in Japan, like with the throwing of the salt on the ring before a bout for example, two ages old forms of entertainment for both the Royalty and the people, who at the end of the day have a new Hero, a new peoples Champion, who is rewarded for his bravery by being given a high status in Japanese society, just as with the great Bull fighters of Espa�a, they have always been looked upon as if royalty by their adoring fans.

I think I prefer the Sumo wrestling to the bull fight, as nobody gets killed, and it's much less gory, much more of a family affair than bulls getting stabbed to death, and people being badly gorado in the streets, don't you think?

Also I believe that there is a huge following of the sport of grappling in the U.S., I mean the professional Grappling, I'm not sure of it's exact name, but I think it's like Greco-Roman style grappling or wrestling, but not that other rubbish that they show with all those hyperventilated heroes with tattoos & stuff, no I mean the proper grappling that they do in college etc and at Olympic level.

I can't say that I'm particularly much of a fan of that type of grappling, but at least it is a professional sport with rules and a code of honour, mutual respect, discipline, and is done without any malice, as with the bull fight and the Sumo bout, (sin malintenci�n).

Basta ya!! :cheers:
 
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