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You will be just fine. I learned Spanish in 4 different places and I don't have any problems. People still think I'm Cuban when I speak Spanish, but as long as you learn the correct grammatical way of speaking Spanish, you will do just fine. Let us know how things turn out. Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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Jer, you were reading my mind. I can only take but so much of it before my ears turn numb, :jeje: Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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Che! Che! :jeje: This is so funny! Although, I must admit, it sounds sexy when the Argentinian is tall, dark, and handsome!  :cheers:
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| Posts: 697 | Location: Florida | Registered: 24 August 2001 | |
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"the man!"
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Hey Booklady... quote: ...it sounds sexy when the Argentinian is tall, dark, and handsome!
Come on now, does it really matter to you ladies what language he speaks and with what accent if he is a hunk :jeje: As long as he can spaek right   Saludos, jer...
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| Posts: 12249 | Location: ny, u.s.a. --> madrid, spain --> the plaza mayor ! | Registered: 30 June 1998 | |
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I totally agree Booklady. Met a man from Argentina who didn't even have to speak. All he had to do was take his shirt off and just stare at me.  Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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"The reason I talk to myself is that I'm the only one who's answers I accept."
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The Argentinian accent usually pops up on key words and phrases. Especially with things that are supposed to have a hard LL or Y sound in Spanish that equals the hard J sound in English. You should be safe re-learning the basics from this Argentinian person, but watching and listening to as much stuff (Movies, TV, Songs, Books on tape, etc.) straight out of Madrid or other Castillian speaking parts of Spain that you can. This should counteract and straighten out your pronounciation. Cheers. Rocco.
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| Posts: 886 | Location: Madrid | Registered: 08 November 2002 | |
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Rocco, That's a very interesting view. I kept my Puerto Rican accent when I speak Spanish because that's where I studied Spanish the longest and where I still have the majority of my friends. I really didn't find it necessary to change my accent when I got to Spain. I don't find the Castillian dialect that beautiful, but hey, that's just me. Don't want to offend anyone. I love the way Spanish is spoken in the Carribean. Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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Redwood, "I don't find the Castillian dialect that beautiful..." Blasphemy, Blasphemy!!!!  I give you credit for divulging it on a slightly biased SPAIN MESSAGE BOARD, but I still can't give you absolution for your sin. As penitence, I suggest five "Hail Marys" and a year in the Castillian capital city, Valladolid. I guarantee that you will be converted into a powerful missionary for the pure Castillian way. BTW, I have a linguistic question for you. Can the standard language, in this case Castillian be considered a dialect . I thought only variations from the source language could be considered dialects. Perhaps, it's just a semantics question. But, it does sound strange to call Castellano a dialect of Spanish; whereas, calling the Argentine variation a dialect seems valid. Saludos :cheers: I hope you take this post in stride, I'm not trying to anger you. But, I do feel obligated to defend my beloved Castellano. :l: |
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| Posts: 62 | Location: About 8,000 miles from my heart | Registered: 25 May 2002 | |
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Good question, Shawn. I will have to consult my readings and come back with the answer. There is no way that you can upset me in this case because what we are talking about are personal feelings. And since my heart and way of Speaking still linners in Puerto Rico, that's the accent that I have. I still do not believe in PURE Spanish and I will not be brainwashed into believeing that. There is no such thing as a PURE language. Let me get back to you on this question. Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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"the man!"
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Hey, without getting all heavy here, I feel I need to say that I agree with Shawn (Redwood) in that there is no such thing as "PURE language". Language, by nature, is impure and many of it's "impurities" are what make languages so great. Saludos, jer...
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| Posts: 12249 | Location: ny, u.s.a. --> madrid, spain --> the plaza mayor ! | Registered: 30 June 1998 | |
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Shawn, Jer hit the nail on the head. We have to remember that Spanish derived from vulgar Latin, which had impurities and all. Spanish started from impurities and will certainly go through an evolution for years to come. Languages evolve and that can't be stopped. We have to remember that the more languages come in contact, that new words from other languages will be introduced into that language. This is just a fact. So, don't be brainwashed into people telling you that the purest Spanish is in Valladolid and if you continue thinking that there is a PURE Spanish, you are mistaking yourself. You are probably getting STANDARD and NON-STANDARD Spainsh mixed up. Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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| Posts: 1264 | Location: Richmond, VA but in MADRID now | Registered: 10 February 2002 | |
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Redwood, I perhaps should have avoided the phrase "pure Castillian", but my post was a bit tounge and cheek. Although, I can't tell you how many Spanish speakers from other parts of Spain told me about the "castellano puro de Valladolid". So, at least in Spain there probably is a better respected version. Of course, there are only 41 million Spaniards; wherras, there are about 300 million Latin Americans who may feel differently. We all have our personal favourites with regards to pronunciation; however, I do opt for the melodic Northern Meseta version as my model. You are right in saying it's just a feeling. Back to the original question, Don't worry about learning Spanish from an Argentine. There are lots of Argentines who live in Spain and I don't think any of them have communication problems. Personally, I think the Argentine accent is quite nice, it has a flow that makes it easy on the ears, unlike some other Latin American accents that sound like fingernails on the chalkboard. Saludos :cheers: |
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| Posts: 62 | Location: About 8,000 miles from my heart | Registered: 25 May 2002 | |
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Shawn, We did see each other's point of view without any problem and that's the beauty of being educated and listening to the other person. I was told, before going to Puerto Rico, that that wasn't the best place to study Spanish. My professors failed to realize that I was studying Spanish in class and not on the street. If you like the way that Spanish is spoken in Valladolid, by all means, please do. I just prefer the Spanish of PR and the way it flows in its own special way. Shawn
"Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down" - SONG OF SOLOMON, Toni Morrison
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