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This is a serious question about beavers.(!)

On reading a news item about the recent reintroduction of the European beaver (el castor) to both England and Scotland, there was a reference to their reintroduction to Spain in 2003.

I do not remember this being in the news, and have not found anything on the web about it. A tiny map with the article appears to show nuclei of population in La Rioja and Lugo.

http://www.scotsbeavers.org/Duncan%20Halley%20Report.html

Apparently they were wiped out in Roman times in
Spain and Portugal. It was surprising to me that they had lived so far south.

So where are they? Has it been successful?
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Well..., I would be curious to see if they are up there.

Never been to La Rioja nor Lugo and where I have been in Galicia have been cities so not many beavers around chewin on the Apostle Santiago's toes die laughing

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I thought I saw a beaver once in andalucia, but it turned out to be only a cooter. big grin

I get all of those cute little furry woodland creatures mixed up in my head. nutz

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ok, i guess this thread was not going to get too many serious responses so here goes...

i could have sworn i saw one in murcia once but i looked closer and it ended up being a scamper wow die laughing

sorry Stephen, i could not resist.

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die laughing die laughing die laughing

Guess this is not the most popular topic to talk seriously about.

I wanted to make fun too but thought I would be shunned wow wink


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Not sure exactly what a "cooter" or a "scamper" are, but to help identify what you saw, did it:
1) coot
2) scamp, or
3) beave?

Apóstol Santiago was long dead by the time he got to Galicia, and of course the pilgrims didn´t start coming until after the beavers were extinct.
 
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Apóstol Santiago was long dead by the time he got to Galicia


How did that happen? Did his followers drag his dead body here for him?
 
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There is a tradition that his followers did exactly that after his beheading in Jerusalem in 44 A.D.

It also says on the page cited below that he may have actually preached in Spain before then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_James_the_Great

The pilgrimage did not start until about the 9th century, by which time BEAVERS were extinct!

Perhaps they´ll know about the beaver reintroduction programme at Arcadia University.

http://www.arcadia.edu/prospective/default.aspx?id=1649
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The beavers that me and Jer were joking about were never 'extinct' only 'access denied' depending on how the mood strikes the host nation. big grin


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Of course, one way that extinction can happen is if BEAVER is so scarce that no breeding can take place.

PS: zero out of ten for zoology so far! Obviously none of you went to Arcadia University (amusing story linked to above).
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quote:
originally posted by nelsongabriel:
...if BEAVER is so scarce that no breeding can take place.


You are right about that! wink
If BEAVER is scarce no breeding can take place for sure!!! cry


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Well here´s the scoop on beavers.

The site in Galicia is still a "planned" release, for which permission has not been received.

The other site is in the Río Aragón, near where it joins the Ebro. 18 animals were released in 2003. They are now settled and breeding, there are about 40 now. The territory is perfect for beavers with lakes and trees, I am told.

The release was done by an NGO but it is not clear that this was actually legal. The potential territory is the corner where Aragón, Castilla y León, Navarra and La Rioja all meet, near Castejón de Ebro. All four regions want a say in the matter.
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quote:
Well here´s the scoop on beavers.



there goes stephen, scoopin on beavers again die laughing die laughing die laughing

sorry, could not resist.

there are just so many ways to joke here with this topic.

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die laughing Sorry I am laughing too much to really respond to this thread, but I do have one question????? Do beavers hibernate, or just die from lack of interest??


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Not sure whether they hibernate or not.

I´ve got the scoop on wolves too but maybe
I´ll keep it to myself. :-)
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