Ahora, las llamadas perdidas a m�viles cuestan 90 Ptas. sea cual sea la operadora. Parece que va en serio. Yo lo he consultado en Amena y es verdad
�Vaya tela!
Cuidado, ahora las operadoras cobran las llamadas perdidas a m�viles a 90 ptas. Hab�a o�do comentar que las operadoras de telefon�a iban a empezar cobrar el INTENTO de establecimiento de llamada a m�viles, es decir, si llamas a un m�vil desde donde sea, tel�fono m�vil, fijo o cabina y cuelgas antes de que cojan el tel�fono te cobran una tarifa fija por el uso de la l�nea.
Tristemente ayer comprob� que es cierto, al llamar desde una cabina, colgu� antes de que saltara el buz�n de voz y para mi sorpresa vi como me cobraban 90 pts, autom�ticamente llame a informarme a Telef�nica y me ratificaron que desde el ano 94 tienen publicado en el BOE que iban a hacer este cobro y que lo han empezado a llevar a cabo hace unos d�as, tambi�n me dijeron que lo hacen todas las operadoras, solo he comprobado que Madritel tambi�n lo hace.
Bueno s�lo os escrib�a para comunicaroslo y que andeis con mas ojo al intentar llamar a un m�vil y pediros que divulgueis la noticia, ya que creo que no van a hacer campana publicitaria de Navidad anunci�ndolo,
�Por qu� ser�?
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Just so you know.
Now lost calls to cellphones cost 90 Pestas, no matter what phone company you use. They are serious, I asked Amena and they confirmed it.
What a kick in the ass!
Be careful, now the phone companies charge 90 Pesetas for los calls to cellphones. I had heard a rumor that the phone companies were going to try and charge the attempted calls to cellphones, that is, if you call a cellphone (no matter where you dial from: another cellphone, private land line or phone booth) and hang up before the person or voicemail picks up, you are charged a flat rate for the use of the phone line.
Sadly, yesterday I checked it out and it is true. I called from a phone booth and hung up before the voicemail kicked in and, to my surprise, I saw that I was charged 90 Pesetas. I instantly called Telef�nica and they informed me that since 1994, they have anounced in the "BOE" (Bolet�n Oficial del Estado" - www.boe.es - Official State Bulletin) that they were going to begin charging for the lost calls and that they began to do so a few days ago. They also told me that all of the phone companies are doing it. I only checked with Madritel and they are also doing it.
Ok, I am only writing to you all to tell you to be careful when trying to call a cellphone and to ask you to spread the word since I do not think that the phone companies will be launching an ad campaign about it for the holidays.
I was shocked when I received this message via email this morning, so I decided to call MOVISTAR to confirm this information.
MOVISTAR Customer Service told me that this is NOT TRUE, at least for Movistar. They said that they just charge you for calls that are answered either by a person or by voice mail.
I also asked if they were planning on doing this anytime soon, and they told me they were not considering it.
I do not know if the other companies (AMENA, VODAFONE)are charging for these calls or not...
I am gonna do an experiment and call from one of my rental phones (pay-as-you-go Vodafone & Movistar) to my cell phone, hang up before the voicemail kicks in and see if and how much they remove from my call credit.
Question is, why would someone send that e-mail around the country if it were not true. What could they possibly gain from it?
I also work for Vodafone and unanswered calls have no cost as far as I know. Even if they decided to charge them (and I hope they never will) I think 0.54� is far too much for it.
This mail you have received reminds me of the famous "hotmail-is-closing-down" one which tries to persuade you to forward it to at least 15 people if you want to preserve your account; or other rumour-spreading mails. I hope there's no truth in that.
Un saludo :cheers:
Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare
originally posted by jer: [qb] Question is, why would someone send that e-mail around the country if it were not true. What could they possibly gain from it? [/qb]
Bragging rights for starting an "urban legend"!
"An honest man is always a child" - Socrates ...no wonder I'm so immature!
Well, it wouldn't surprise me. I believe there is a telephone conspiracy going on. I was going to post this on Jer's original thread about the poor girl who got phonenapped by a telefonica call box.
The nine (yes, 9) public phone boxes where I live have all been vandalised, either by dumb kids, rival phone companies, or understandably upset telefonica clients (I sympathise).
You might remember that about 8 months ago, if you recharged your pre-paid (Movistar, I'm talking about) you had your number for the next 9 months (or so, cant remember). Now, this space seems to have shrunk to 3 weeks, so you have to compensate, (dealers?).
And if we were all to share stories about the 2 Euros (or 332 Ptas) (or 25 pips or whatever) we've had swallowed by public phones etc., well, we'd be quite boring but quite alot richer!
My point is that I can quite understand why Telefonica have trained their public phone boxes in the arts of ju-jitsu and karate, and how to nab someone who thinks they can actually get their € 1.50 back, even when they have not been given the service that money was for (by the way, any interesting comments as to other industries in which this happens? can you claim money back, if you decide the movie you saw was a bit pants?).
I would call for a boycott but I think thats not the purpose of this post and it sounds a bit revolutionary and pointless...
So, anyway, if we start getting charged for phone calls we dont actually make, (as anyone who has used a pub phone to call a house with a BT answering service knows), where will it end? lol! I'm being pedantic, but it is a fair point.
Although none of the companies charge for lost calls, they are authorized to do it by the BOE, that part is true as I remember to hear it in the news long time ago, it's just some special "kindness" they have with us not to charge for it. If they decided to charge, we would hear about it in the news for sure as it'ld be so impopular. About the girl with the hand captured by the phone box, I didn't believe it at the first moment, then I saw the new today on El Mundo http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/fotosdeldia/2003/12/10/index_2.html , but I still don't believe it completely well, maybe that's true.
Posts: 153 | Location: Madrid (Spain) | Registered: 10 June 2003
Hey Godot27, soooooo true about the payphones. I have been warning visitors to Spain about that since I launched my site...
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Payphones around Spain are very abundant but you may find many broken and they can rob you more often than you might like so calling card are a good option since you will not lose your money.
You might remember that about 8 months ago, if you recharged your pre-paid (Movistar, I'm talking about) you had your number for the next 9 months (or so, cant remember). Now, this space seems to have shrunk to 3 weeks, so you have to compensate, (dealers?).
Well, though it is not 3 weeks, Movistar has reduced the "SIM life" to 7.5 months (from the 12 it used to be) and the call credit life to 6 months (from the 9 it used to be) When you add funds to your prepaid phone (Movistar), the credit life is reset for 6 more months and then you have 45 additional days to receive calls. After that 45 day "grace" period, you lose the phone #.
Not sure why Movistar has reduced these periods of time but I think it has to do with the fact that they make millions (of �uros) on "caducidad" (expiration) of SIMs since when your SIM card expires, you lose the call credit which you had paid them for without using the call time AND you have to buy a new SIM (Movistar SIMs are the most expensive of the 3 cell carriers).
Vodafone still provides for a 9 month credit life and 12 month SIM life.
Surprisingly, Amena provides the best deal in this area with a 12 month credit life and 12 month SIM life.
Yes, something freaky is going on here in Spain as every day the phne companies that also have cell service are making it more atractive to use your cell phone and less so to use payphones.
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And if we were all to share stories about the 2 Euros (or 332 Ptas) (or 25 pips or whatever) we've had swallowed by public phones etc., well, we'd be quite boring but quite alot richer!
Well, ever since I go my hands on the eurodirect phone cards I have not put a single coin into a payphone (nor have I used my home phone for that matter ). If you use the card from a payphone or a private land line it costs 3 cents/min. to call within Spain, less than half of the 6.4 cents/min. that Telef�nica charges from a payphone and no risk of losing your coins.
Hey miguelito, thanks for the link.
You should have seen the report on the news, they recorded the whole ordeal of the firemen cutting the phone in half to get here fingers out.
I am still surprised that Telef�nica did not have their lawyers there with a court order to cut the girls fingers off in order to save their payphone
originally posted by jer: [qb] it would seem that at least 1 Spaniard has WAY too much free time on his/her hands [/qb]
Yeah, I know him too! He's my wife's third cousin. He's 37 and still lives with his parents. Let's see if we can get him off of PARO sometime this millenium... Just kidding...
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Posts: 656 | Location: Madrid (Kansas City, USA) | Registered: 06 November 2001
On the subject of Vodafone SIM cards.. So as long as I keep recharging my SIM card every 9 months, I dont lose my credit? Im more worried about losing my phone number. Ive been recharging from the states every 4 months or so since i left Spain at the end of July. Anyone know how long my phone number is mine?
poor grad student
Posts: 104 | Location: NYC NY | Registered: 18 November 2003
- rent or buy a cell phone from me for your stay in spain, more info at 
- already have a cell phone, get a spanish SIM card for it at 
:lo: 
I have not put a single coin into a payphone (nor have I used my home phone for that matter 
Just kidding... 
