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jer
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hey all.

as you may know, i am a bit of a panorama geek these days big grin

well, i now need your collective help on a pano.

the worldwide panorama site is having a pano contest. the participants create a pano and submit it and this time, the theme is "gardens".

if you don't know what a panorama is, see http://www.spain720.com/eng/portfolio.html .

if you want to read about it, see http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/wwp/practical/NextEvent.html

so, i have to shoot it on thursday and was wondering if you all have recommendations on gardens to shoot?

i have been considering...

- "campo del moro" with the royal palace in the background.

- "palacio de cristal" and it's surrounding gardens at the retiro park.

- "jardín botánico".

- "templo de debod" (a stretch for a "garden" but may slide by).

so far the fave is the "campo del moro".

so, any suggestions on nice/original gardens in madrid i can do a pano of for this contest?

saludos,
jer...

p.d. the "jardines de sabatini" are out as they were so abandoned all winter that they are very UGLY now (at least they were last i was over there).


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Hi Jer
I love the Aranjuez gardens and the charming Jardin El Capricho on P. Alameda de Osuna (Canillejas)

Good Luck
Nava


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I agree about El Capricho. You could also look at the Jardines de Cecilio Rodríguez (open 9-17h, Mon to Fri, AFAIR).
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Jer. All of the gardens you mentioned do not have much color. They are mostly green with shaped hedges or bushes. I think you would do better finding something with more of a mix of colors.
Faunia Parque Biológico (Metro: Valdebernaderos) www.faunia.es or Real Jardín Botanico seem like they would have the most diversity.


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hey all, thanks.

Nava, my bad, i should have specified i need it to be in madrid. simply do not have time to go outside of madrid and do this what with my busy work schedule and all. i do however agree, aranjuez would be nice to shoot, will put it on my "to do" list for a later date.

Stephen, thanks for the recs. as well.

Rocco...

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All of the gardens you mentioned do not have much color...or Real Jardín Botanico seem like they would have the most diversity.


eeerrrrrrrrr, actually, the "jardín botánico" was on my original list above.

faunia is out since it is outside of madrid (no time to make the trip) and i am not willing to pay 20+euros (?) to get in and shoot a pano. they should pay ME for it!!! big grin

also, you misunderstood (or did not read the contest description page i linked to above roll eyes). the gardens need not be colorful at all. the theme "gardens" is very wide open as you will see if you read it. even toyed with the idea of doing "los jardines del descubrimiento" ("discovery gardens") in plaza de colón but they are not very attractive.

below is the description from that link above...

quote:
As a professional geographer, I am hoping that "gardens" as a theme will elicit a worldwide spectrum of diverse environments and cultural expressions. Nobody need travel very far to find an interesting subject, or interpret the theme as a metaphor. Just look around, think about what makes gardens in your particular place special and distinctive, then find a good example with photographic possibilities.

Gardens range from prim little front yards, just lawn and flowerbeds, to elaborate landscapes with plants originating from all over the world, or for that matter fruits and vegetables. Some gardens are small and private, others open to the public and world famous.

One way of looking at gardens is that they embody our ideals for a vegetated space - filtered by cultural context and physical environment. What makes a garden in Arizona different from one in Connecticut, Hawaii, Italy, Mexico, Alaska, Japan, or Brazil? Each will have distinctive aspects that set it apart from the others.

First, of course, there is what the physical environment allows. Cold, wind, heat, drought and soil type all limit our choices. My cousins in Canada simply cannot grow some of my favorite California plants, and I cannot get oleanders to bloom on our foggy ridgetop.

But given our ability to alter the environment, even more important than physical factors are our expectations and desires. What do we want from a garden - organic vegetables, brilliant flowers, species native to the region, unusual plants from all over, shade from the sun, shelter from the wind, impressive vistas or intimate spaces? How do we want to manage it - manicured, casual, or wild?

Each culture evolves its own aesthetic of landscaping. Some are widely understood and emulated - everyone recognizes a classic Japanese garden, for example. But most gardens are subtle variations on a cultural/environmental theme, modulated by local circumstances and individual preferences, and sometimes by institutional mandates.

Every major city has one or more famous gardens, often city parks. London has the Chelsea Physic Garden, established in 1673 to collect and study medicinal plants. San Francisco has the Japanese Tea Garden, a by-product of the 1915 Panama-Pacific Exposition. Kyoto is famous for its temples, including the unique raked gravel Zen gardens. The Missouri Botanical Garden in Saint Louis is a world leader in botanical research as well as a public park. Banyan Park in Lahaina on the Hawaiian island of Maui is covered by a single huge banyan tree.

Vegetable and fruit gardens reflect culture and environment. In what environments would you expect the following to be grown: olives, apples, papayas, avocadoes? Tomatoes, rhubarb, vegetable marrow, okra, tomatilloes?

Botanical gardens serve two purposes, research and public education. Some display the vegetation of the world, others focus on the local area. They are usually laid out geographically and all the plants should be labeled. Some contain unusual or unique plants, such as the Victoria lily at Kew Gardens near London, or Captain Bligh's breadfruit on the West Indian island of Saint Vincent.

Gardens, with their often complex three dimensional structures, offer a lot of creative photographic possibilities. I can imagine a panorama with distant vistas in one direction, enclosed spaces in another, and a bed of striking flowers right up close. Or shot from just above the soil level. A formal garden shot on the axis of symmetry, a riotous tropical garden with fruit and flowers in all directions.

There is great variety in what might be encountered in a garden landscape. I see ponds and fish, sundials, statues, stone lanterns, stepping stones, terraces, hanging baskets, follies, hammocks, fountains, dry streams, herbaceous borders, scarecrows, lily ponds, lawn tractors, maybe even a shrubbery. Ever seen a ha-ha? Greenhouses make tropical environments possible at any latitude.

How about some mirror-ball panoramas? Get a silver Victorian gazing ball (like a huge Christmas tree ornament), photograph it with a moderate telephoto lens, unwrap it into a panorama (CubicConverter will do this). The ball could be placed on the ground between the plants and photographed from above, giving a rabbit's level view. Or it could be suspended in mid-air and photographed from underneath.

Captions will be important for this theme. If the garden consists, for example, exclusively of plants from South Africa (even though it might be in California) the caption must explain this, and why. If the garden was designed by "Capability" Brown, we will want to know who he was - and about that ha-ha. What are the urban allotments found in the British Isles, how did they originate, and who was George Russell? What is special about Monterey's "Sensory Garden". What is pollarding and why do we find London plane trees all over the world?

So, take a good look around you, try to interpret the physical and cultural reasons for what you see planted, where and why. Choose a garden, large or small, private or public, flowers or vegetables or lawns. Find a way to bring out its special beauty and interest in your panoramic photography. Learn all about it and write a good caption. Easy!


one panographer even proposed a pano of a busy library entitled "the garden of knowledge".

yes, he may have taken a bit too much creative license but you get the point.

ok, i think i have a new choice for my shoot... the atrium room at atocha train station cool




now, do i shoot the pano from down in the middle of it or from above where the traveller statue is???

and will i get arrested for shooting there since "technically" one needs to get written permission to use a tripod in there eeker

and who will bail me out when they haul me in? wow

decisions decisions!!!

saludos,
jer...


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Soot from the middle out.

I will post bail if you get thrown in jail.

You know I have good relations with Spanish police.


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