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Sunny + beautiful 1 bdrm flat available immediately for rent. Very spacious. Partially furnished. Great location in Centro near Metro Anton Martin with great views of the city. Ideal for pareja. 900euros/month. Post questions here for more info.
 
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hi tmo, thanks for the offer.

sounds a bit steep for that are, can you tell us more so i can leave this up here...

- square meters?
- exterior or interior?
- what exactly is furnished and what is not?
- what floor it is on?
- is there an elevator?
- phone line and/or internet?
- heat and/or ac?
- security deposit? how much?

saludos & thanks,
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this must be a luxury flat. nothing in anton martin should run that high...unless you are taking advantage of tourists and young students.

you can get a swank place in barrio salamanca for 900!

wow...is it an entire floor or something, with a jacuzzi tub, fireplace, terrace? what makes it so expensive?
 
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i totally agree Candela.

i was being discreet with my "sounds a bit steep" comment above.

i look forward to seeing what tmo has to say about the flat and why it is sooooooo expensive.

saludos,
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Hi there. The 900€!!

That’s not really expensive, you can’t expect to get a really decent apartment these days for that kind of money, it’s not a lot of money to pay for a place that has been well sorted out, I mean really looked after, properly decorated, not everything just glossed over with cheap gloss paint. A place that has been fixed up really well will have been decorated to a high standard, with good lighting in all areas, solid doors with decent (not squeaky) or rusty hinges, and fitted with a couple of high calibre locks, (the five lever type at least) top & bottom, the windows are more likely to be double glazed, perhaps even with secondary glazing fitted as standard, to give the extra thermal & sound proofing which is so much more desirable these days, and in some places totally necessary.

In 1990 for one year, I worked as a live in private estate manager in an exclusive part of London called Hampstead, and was responsible for the overall daily running of 3 very large wings on the estate, containing a total of 87 apartments, one of which was mine as part of my annual salary, which for me at that time was considerable, especially as it included almost all expenses, electricity, gas, phone, etc, etc, etc, and was a pretty good deal, but sadly I had to move away in order to pursue other objectives & business plans, but during that time I got to see exactly what kind of condition these places are kept in, and could easily see why the people there were so willing to pay the kind of money that they were paying, I mean these places were spotless, the “Landlord” along with managing agent and my self, went round for an inspection each and every month, and anything that was not kept up to standard was dealt with that very same day without delay, the hallways had proper (and good quality) wallpaper, heavy duty carpeting throughout, draft excluding and sound proofing everywhere, decent lighting (no dark or shadowed doorways) smoke detectors all over, and most importantly A FIRE EXIT with clearly defined direction signs, plenty of FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, in all the right places, which I personally checked each day along with the smoke detectors, door phone & video entry only system, and some of those places around there you have a 24 hour guard included in your rent for extra piece of mind, and believe me, many, many people are more than prepared to pay the extra to keep the winos, junkie-fixers, blow-jobbers, con artists & rapists and urinating SOB’s out of your hallway.

I think if a place is well sorted out, and obviously kept in good order, decorated to a high standard and free from “nuisances” and safe from the many other effects of the street below, then it’s worth paying the extra, assuming of course that your salary/Income/pocket will allow you to afford it.

If that place in Anton Martin is of a high enough calibre, e.g. (properly decorated & carpeted throughout, with decent doors, windows & locks) is on an upper floor away from the street, and the scum-bags out there can’t gain access to the elevators to urinate in them, and more importantly these days (HAS GOT A FIRE EXIT/ESCAPE) with a few extinguishers around the building, and a recent Inspection certificate can be seen on a wall somewhere (not out of date & hidden), then the 900€ is not bad at all, even for Anton Martin. Of course, it has to be said that with a price tag like that, it would only be affordable by a professional person, someone with a pretty good salary, and lets face it, there are a lot of people around these days who can afford that, and more, some people who are in business actually keep more than one apartment, often in more than one city, and sometimes in two countries, if not more.

As for myself, well, I personally have lived in some real hell holes in my time, with real lunatics upstairs & downstairs, had a lot of years of suffering abuse from neighbors, attempted robberies & break-ins, vandalism, big fights, real trouble, you name it I’ve had it all, and I would gladly pay 900 and a hell of a lot more to get what I really want, the way I want things to be, and even more if it had my own lock-up garage for my car, or at least an underground car park, with my own numbered space, and an electronic gate so nobody could get in and mess with the cars.

I think generally, people nowadays are much more prepared to pay more to get what they want, because lets face it, things in the big inner cities are pretty bad these days, there is so much crime now that it’s just getting too scary for many people who feel vulnerable, especially single females living on their own, and another consideration is the state of the place, if it is a sh**t hole and not looked after, the landlord is never seen, there is no provision made for a fire exit or escape from the building in the event of a fire, there are no fire extinguishers to be seen, no smoke detectors around, poor lighting, old & dodgy looking electrical points, no front or main door security, i.e. (open to the street) cheap doors & locks that do nothing, etc, etc, etc, then my advice is GET OUT OF THERE, NOW!!!

Some of those places are death traps, like the one in France recently, did you hear about it in the news? How many places like that one must there be in this world? Too many I’d reckon, if you cannot get out of your building any other way than by the main street door, then it’s a bad place in my opinion, there must be a fire escape and some kind of alarm system at the very least, or that place ain’t worth sh**t.

I guess at the end of the day, you get what you pay for, what you can afford, but only until you can afford better, and you just pay it, cos it’s worth it, nobody wants to open their door and be afraid of who might be hanging around in the hallway, or to receive some friends one evening, who have to walk up the stairs to your flat, with the strong smell of urine up their noses, or have to brush past some nasty looking thugs in the hallway (who don’t live there).

Food for thought eh!!

Saludos,
Santiago
 
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hello,
i didn't want to start some kind of debate, i only want to rent the flat. i'm moving out of it and i am not the owner, so i don't know why exactly he chose that price (which i am sure is negotiable) but there are obviously logical reasons. in asnwer to questions:
-sixty meters sq.
-exterior, facing st calle Santa Isabel, able to see the filmoteca, atocha, cibeles and the telefonica building from windows
-furnished in english-american modern style, not spanish. queen sized futon bed, sturdy pine dining table for persons, minimalist ikea couch and coffee table. plus plates, glasses, etc.
-4th floor, top of building
-elevator no. it's an old building.
-phone line obviously. but no one is paying for the phone, someone will have to contract that themselves (like i did with adsl as well)
-yes heat
-yes security deposity, two months which i think is standard

it's a beautiful, re-done apartment, not spanish style at all but much more like a loft.

i have no idea why people need to criticize so much. if you are not interested in the apartment fine. and frankly, i think it is quite normal to pay 400-500 euros for a place so centrally located and so big - assuming you are part of a couple and paying half.
 
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thanks for the update. the apartment does sound nice as you describe it. i don't think anyone meant to be critical, just the price is quite surprising for one bedroom. two, maybe.

anyway, good luck with the move.
 
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I agree with Candela. Nobody meant to offend you but you figure that on rough calculations places work out to about 300 to 400 euros per room. So for 900 euros you should get at least 2 rooms even if it is in the center.
There are much larger places for the same money the farther away you go from the center so people will just have to weigh out the pros and cons and decide for themselves if paying a little more to be in the center is worth it for them or not.

I had a two bedroom flat in Barrio del Pilar / Peñadrande for 550 euros and I swithced over to a studio in Sol for 455 euros. For me it was worth giving up all of the extra space to be in the center and save the 45 minute metro trip each way and the inconvenience of having to take a taxi or night bus that left you way out of the way. I even cut way down on the Metro tickets I need and just buy the 10 trip tickets as needed since I am now able to go to many places on foot.


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tmo, this is a discussion forum, hence the discussion.

i do not think anyone meant to hurt your feelings, just making observations.

if you wanted no comments and just a listing, you would have been better off placing this in my classifieds at www.multimadrid.com/classifieds .

saludos,
jer...


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I am sure people don´t mean to criticise, Tara, but when you first started posting here in 2003, looking for places to rent, I think you found help from mm? Now ppl are asking you questions, and as jer said, if you don´t want the discussion just post on the classifieds!!!


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wow madsue! good eye!

i had not even realized that she had been asking for leads on an apt. way back.

i did not even think to enter hr profile and look at her past posts.

you are a pro at this new board thang girl!!! brews

saludos,
jer...


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big grin big grin just glad I am getting used to it!! At last roll eyes


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