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hey. my 2 eurocents. with 3 nights (2 days?) in granada i would not rent a car at all. you will have plenty to do andd see in granada for 2 days and if you rent a car, you will only have to worry about where to leave it (or pay a small fortune for a parking garage). that much time in ronda is a lot of time so you should rent the car when you leave granada and then return it in sevilla as you were planning to do. the above plan will allow you to explore around ronda and to sevilla and only have to rent a car for 3 days. there is no reason to have a car in granada, especially if you only have a few days there. saludos, jer...
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| Posts: 12232 | Location: ny, u.s.a. --> madrid, spain --> the plaza mayor ! | Registered: 30 June 1998 |    |
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hey...the major car rental companies are well-represented in spain...ie. www.hertz.es and www.avis.es (or you could just go to their american .com sites) another very popular rental agency here, which is related to national car is www.europcar.es you should have no prob finding the 902 numbers (similar to 800 in the states, but with a small fee) and then all of them will have english-speaking operators. however, you should be able to plan all this before you arrive. also, be sure and bring your current drivers' license, a major credit card with min 300 balance for security and...duh...your passport. AAA in the states sells an "international license" for 10 bucks, but i've never heard of it being necessary....though i'd be interested in the opinions of others who rent.... do tell mm'ers. happy trails, candy
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| Posts: 1001 | Location: MADRID! | Registered: 09 November 2002 |    |
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The train from Barcelona is slow, slow--12 hours, I think. But I checked and driving takes a long time, too (9 hours more with stops). Did you think of taking the plane from Barcelona to Granada? It takes an hour and 20 minutes and will probably cost about the same as the train. Vueling has flights: http://www.vueling.comAnd, jer is right. If you are going to be in Granada for two or three days, you probably won't really want to leave town. Don't forget to reserve tickets to the Alhambra ahead of time. You can do it on the web: https://w3.grupobbva.com/ALHAMBRA/alhambra/vcentral_ING.html
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| Posts: 1070 | Location: Madrid | Registered: 10 December 2002 |    |
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This is only slightly off topic, but in regards to the night train, the only time I took one I had a hard time sleeping as I ended up feeling motion sick. Sitting up was not a problem, it was lying down. Would have been easier if I'd been on the bottom bunk (I could have gotten up and walked around a bit before trying to sleep again), but I was sharing the car with two little old ladies so that wasn't an option. In the end I got up and just didn't go back to bed. Better to be tired than nausious. If you also suffer from motion sickness, pack dramamine.  Cheers, Bonnie
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| Posts: 435 | Location: Italy | Registered: 25 November 2003 |    |
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I think that Jerez, Ronda and Seville form a triangle. If your wife is into dressage, then you should definitely go to Jerez. Maybe you could spend the night or spend the day and head to Seville later. You can take a tour of the Real Escuela Andaluza del Arte Ecuestre (the riding school). And I think they do performances (my honorary aunt is a dressage freak, so I researched all of this a while back...going on memory). Here's their site: http://www.realescuela.org/ing/home.htmAnd, I'm not sure why, but as I remember Jerez seems to be full of some of the nicest people in all of Spain. Seriously, buena gente. Maybe it's all that sherry--it does tend to mellow you out...
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| Posts: 1070 | Location: Madrid | Registered: 10 December 2002 |    |
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I have used CROWN for car rentals in Andalucia and always been happy. www.crowncarhire.com Check out the rates? I think that it would be best for you to drop off the car at their office near Santa Justa rail station in Seville. It's no difficulty driving in Seville except for the old central city which has narrow one way streets. CROWn is a pretty relaxed company and I think their rates are as good as any. Alternative is of course to ditch renting a car altogether. From Granada you can take a train to Ronda. Takes about 2 1/2 hours and makes for a relaxed journey. Look at times on RENFE? Cost is 17 Euros. And from Ronda to Jerez is a bus journey. Bus company www.tgcomes.es Or you can bus directly to Seville. Stay longer in Seville but Jerez is well worth a visit. You can train easily from Jerez into Seville.
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| Posts: 236 | Location: Cadiz Province and Sussex England | Registered: 07 October 2002 |    |
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I was in Seville for just one day earlier this week. This was my first visit to Seville, and I was surprised by how quiet the roads were in the city, but then again July is holiday season, so perhaps usually there is more traffic?
I took a bus from the airport to the city, and got off some place after Santa Justa station. The city is only a short bus ride from the airport, but the wait for the bus in the morning was about an hour, although seemed to be more frequent on the return in the evening.
I think Vueling.com flights from Barcelona go to Seville, so perhaps it would make sense for you to fly Barcelona/Seville first, if you decide not to take the train.
I loved Seville, 1 day was nowhere near long enough there, so shall return, perhaps when the weather cools down.
Have fun.
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| Posts: 33 | Location: Near London, England | Registered: 23 November 2002 |    |
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hey sooz. yes, you are right, in july and august the only people nutz enough (due to the heat)  to go to sevilla are... 1) tourists. 2) foreign students for summer programs. ... and the vast majority of these people tend not to have cars so there are a LOT less vehicles on the streets. also, the MASSIVE construction going on in the city center has a lot of roads inacccesible to cars so maybe that would explain the lack of traffic. saludos, jer...
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| Posts: 12232 | Location: ny, u.s.a. --> madrid, spain --> the plaza mayor ! | Registered: 30 June 1998 |    |
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